Ignorance at a gun show

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black1970

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Where else can you handle guns and tell your wife or girlfriend how much you really don't know about guns telling her that you are pretending to be an expert. BTW 99% of people at a gun show don't have 2 quarters to rub together. And just ask anybody coming through the door if they know what a 222 is.
 

eveled

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Guns and other things for sale at those shows are simply and only a commodity to many of the vendors.
Or simply an item that is out of their expertise. I'm sure I'd look like a fool trying to sell a Glock.

Some people just can't admit they do not know everything. Funny part is even though they don't admit it, it becomes painfully obvious when they talk.
 

bobski

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i use to have a gun show table...and i must admit, its a whole different world that you get to see from the sellers point of view. i use to display my high standards...(ALL models from the 20's to the 80's) plus hartford arms guns, and even then i had people telling me i had them marked wrong, INSTEAD of saying, gee mister what a nice gun collection you have! thank you for showing it!
even had some guys say...nice rugers!
one table was a display, and another was high standard parts and shotguns.
the good guys knew what i had, and never said a word. they just pointed and paid.
then you always got the ones trying to buy guns out of the display.
use to have them say, what the blank you got guns here for if youre not selling them? and steam off.
guess they couldnt read. the display even said for display only.


even to this day people dont get it.
ive learned to watch their eyes. you learn a lot about someone looking them in the eye.
ive also learned to watch their hands.
 
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even to this day people dont get it.
ive learned to watch their eyes. you learn a lot about someone looking them in the eye.
ive also learned to watch their hands
I have been at gun shows and babysat displays for people displaying. Some of them post on here and I consider them to be good friends and fine people.

The guns being shown are not for sale and are behind ropes and stanchions for a reason. I watch these guns to make sure that nobody messes with or touches them. I will explain the various guns and other items to the best of my ability and knowledge or get someone who knows more to get the people asking the questions the proper answers.

Several times at each show that I have attended there have been people who try to go behind the stanchions to pick up and play with the guns on display. The first time they try it they get a gentle but firm warning not to touch the items on display. Some are stupid enough to try a second time to touch what they are not supposed to....The second warning is not polite and I will let someone know that this particular person is being a nuisance and they are not wanted to be near our displays. Ignorance abounds in some places and their actions are not appreciated by the people who put up such fine displays.
 

Pál_K

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... just ask anybody coming through the door if they know what a 222 is.

Some might know what a .222 is, but they may not know what a 7mm BR is or what shoots it.

(by the way, these are just the cases I use for reloading, the loaded rounds are on the opposite wall).

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I appreciate all the kind words about me. But I'll also be the very first one to say there is a lot about Rugers I do not know. BUT,, I do know I have the RENE Reference Guide,, AND a network of other collectors whom I can pick the brains of to get the best information.

But as for not attending them,, I still manage to turn over a few rocks & discover a few deals.
Just yesterday;
Ruger GP-100 Match Champion grips; $40
New brass, RP 38-40 cal, 50 pieces. $10
Ruger OM .357 cylinder; $55
Ruger 22/45 magazine; $12
162 pieces of Hornady XTP .32 cal 100 grn bullets; $25
100 ct box of Hornady JHP bullets, .452 cal, 265 grn; $20
Lee factory collet crimp die, 44-40 NIB; $10 (And I don't even own a 44-40.)


And I passed on a fair deal on a shooter. A Ruger SBH, first year of the prefix serials, that had been re-blued (apparently by Ruger) for $700. If had been in want or need of a shooter,, I would have purchased it.
You have a need of the 38-40 brass? If not, I think I can move it for you.
 

Duke22

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I frequently help a buddy with his tables at gun shows, when the know-it-alls and the internet experts start talking, you just have to smile and walk away. I know, hard to do sometimes.
 
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Despite being a bit tired today,, a buddy & I went to a gun show. As I was cruising the tables,, I spied a Ruger Single-Six, New Model, and casually picked it up.
The seller,, said "It's an old one" but it wasn't a "flattop."

Despite the fact it had base pin that was NOT a Ruger one,, and in general,, showed a bit of neglect, he tried to sell me on the "really old" gun. I politely said; "This gun is not that old,, it's a "New Model!" (And by the serial number was made in the 1990's.) He insisted it was very old,, but not a Flattop. I (again) politely showed him where it said it was a New Model as shown on the frame. That an "OLD" gun would be a 3-screw, non-transfer bar gun. And I (again) politely tried to explain that NONE of the Single-Six guns were made as Flattops. That yes,, there were FIXED sighted guns,, but not a FT Single-Six.
He flat told me; "I know my Rugers, and that gun is an old one, and they did make a Flattop in the .22's."

Well, I then reached in my pocket,, pulled out my pocket sized RENE Reference Guide,, and said; "Prove it. Here's the collectors bible of detailed Rugers." He looked at the cover,, and said; "I don't need no book to tell me anything."

I tried hard to be polite,, but his ignorance & insistence of what he believed,, caught me wrong. I know I could have just smiled & walked away after his first claim of it being "old" and not a Flattop. I guess I was too tired to let it go. I knew better,, but I actually had (initially) hoped he'd be open to a bit more correct information.

I guess I'm more used to the good folks here who appreciate good, correct information.
"I heard it at a gun show" is about as credible as "I saw it on the internet". You may get some good information there, but then again, maybe not. When I get a bullsh!t sales pitch, I just remember that gun shows are places to find entertainment as well as guns. It's all part of the show.
 

protoolman

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Remember Skeeter Skeletons entertaining stories of gun shows? He had hilarious stories of cheats, liars etc.
I like to look at guns and wait to hears the sellers bs stories. Very entertaining. I run to gun shows between Washington State to Minnesota these days. Most are really sales. Collectors displaying minutia are not really popular. Eastern shows must be different with the displays thing?
 

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