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I'm posting this in here because it really made me stop and think.
"And you know, the more of us there are, the more distant we become. We're practically livin' on top of each other but we're further away from each other spiritually, morally, socially, than we've ever been before." Quote from a book I just read - John Connolly - Every Dead Thing.

What do all y'all think? I don't care what you think about the book, what do you think about the quote?

I'm 72 YO and I have begun to think politics has become more about culture and culture change than anything else.

I absolutely agree with the quote. Look at how the human race treats everything around it: other people, the planet and life on it, themselves.

I started to respond but I thought better of it. Suffice to say, I agree that the politics of today are not what they were when I started paying attention about 55 years ago.

turd said:

I'm posting this in here because it really made me stop and think.
"And you know, the more of us there are, the more distant we become. We're practically livin' on top of each other but we're further away from each other spiritually, morally, socially, than we've ever been before." Quote from a book I just read - John Connolly - Every Dead Thing.

What do all y'all think? I don't care what you think about the book, what do you think about the quote?

I'm 72 YO and I have begun to think politics has become more about culture and culture change than anything else.

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I don't see politics in the quote. It is good and I agree with the author.

Everyone is into themselves and they don't really care about other people or groups of people. I guess in a way that's political. But each group thinks its cause is the most important. (And that is political isn't it?)

I also see hints of cancel culture in the quote which relates to a lot of what's going on in pop culture of the moment.

There are just so many different people today.

I agree. The electronic age with texting, Twitter uh X , Facebook has separated people and diminished actual communication. I see it in stores where some young kid is working. I can tell the gamers and the texters from those that have person skills

The aim of Cultural Marxism is to unravel our social fabric. The decline of Western Civilization corresponds directly with watching teevee.

mirglip said:

The aim of Cultural Marxism is to unravel our social fabric. The decline of Western Civilization corresponds directly with watching teevee.
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I just can't tell if you are serious or if this is sarcasm?

WendyZXZ said:

I absolutely agree with the quote. Look at how the human race treats everything around it: other people, the planet and life on it, themselves.

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"Women are amazing creatures-sweet, soft, gentle, and far more savage than we are."
― Robert A. Heinlein

I tell my bride (who's from Connecticut) that the cultural difference between Texans and Yankees (NY, and NE) relates to population density. In the northeast, people live on top of each other like ants. Stir that ant next and they crawl all over you - angry folks.

Texans, by contrast, lived miles apart. So they were genuinely happy to see a neighbor (the fellow who lived only 4 miles away).

And I believe that holds true to this day. City dwellers (in any big city) are just ruder, angrier people. They're creating their "space" with their personalities.

There was a time in human history when all communication was verbal, face to face. There was no other way to communicate, and certainly not more than a few feet from the person speaking. Technology has allowed us to mover further and further apart and to still communicate, but the quality of that communication has diministed. First it was writing, then printing. Then things like radio, TV and now the internet and devices we can keep in a pocket and yet be physically isolated from others and still in constant communication.

And even within the advanced technology of the internet, communication has changed and not for the better. What were once "chat rooms" with spirited discussion because forums such as this one. For young people, forums are too slow and too involved. They don't make phone calls and limit their inter-personal communication to texts and photos with brief captions on social media sites such as Instagram. Where this all ends is anyone's guess.

Think it all started with the automobile. We can roll up the windows, turn up the radio and A/C, put the pedal to the floor, and say " get out of my hurried way, ya a**hole." Now with internet, Facebook, etc., it further alienates people, under the guise of being more connected.

If nothing else, TV and now the Internet have exposed everybody to everyone else's thoughts, ideas, and positions on everything. This has encouraged us all to "choose sides" on every issue and proclaim our support for whatever position suits our own world view. That we can do this in total anonymity encourages the dismissal of once-standard considerations of politeness in interpersonal relations. We can belong to any group we choose without leaving the safety of our keyboards. Subtlety is a lost art and flamboyancy rules. I rather doubt we'll see much improvement in the foreseeable future.

JMHO, YMMV, Close cover before striking, etc.

Kevin said:

I just can't tell if you are serious or if this is sarcasm?

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I have to agree with mirglip so I think he was serious.

Kevin said:

I just can't tell if you are serious or if this is sarcasm?

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I'm only pointing out the obvious. Nothing to be sarcastic about.

mirglip said:

The aim of Cultural Marxism is to unravel our social fabric. The decline of Western Civilization corresponds directly with watching teevee.
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I see what you are getting at. I grew up without a TV. My parents both died without ever having owned one. I learned how to read and understand complicated subjects at a young age. I didn't know much about sports and celebrities.

Zappa wrote a song back in the 70's which calls it out George Orwell like about TV. I'm the Slime

mirglip said:

I'm only pointing out the obvious. Nothing to be sarcastic about.

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I just cannot see the connection between "Cultural Marxism" and the television.

The years in your chart, 1950 and 1978 were years of a lot of advancements, not just the television. Please excuse me, as this is why I thought you were being sarcastic. There was just a lot going on. It was shortly after WWII, people were working, making money, traveling more etc. NASA was a big deal, etc.

The fact that more houses had televisions is just more of a coincidence than anything else. More houses had phones too for that matter.

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The term propaganda machine can be used to describe every form of information media ever devised. From pen & paper of the past to the internet of today. All means of getting information & disinformation to larger audiences with each invention.

Kevin said:

I just cannot see the connection between "Cultural Marxism" and the television.

The years in your chart, 1950 and 1978 were years of a lot of advancements, not just the television. Please excuse me, as this is why I thought you were being sarcastic. There was just a lot going on. It was shortly after WWII, people were working, making money, traveling more etc. NASA was a big deal, etc.

The fact that more houses had televisions is just more of a coincidence than anything else. More houses had phones too for that matter.

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Suit yourself. Most of us are aware of what Cultural Marxism is, but if you don't know, it is the unraveling of our social fabric, the undermining of our traditions and culture and replacing it with Marxist compatible ideas like feminism, homosexuality, multiculturalism, globalism, transgenderism, racial dissolution, materialism etc.. Teevee has taken us from square dancing to rap music. Teevee has manufactured our consent for the changes Marxists wanted to implement before they implemented them.
But if you can't see it, you can't see it.