I watch OAN and Real America's News. Are they Conservative, yes, biased, I think so so some extent, Do they ever slam Trump, some of the guests have been critical at times, but don't take the issue and hammer it on and a and on. Some of OANs commentators not journalist,look at the current issues through a Christian world view which is refreshing.
Sick of Bias NEWS CRAP!
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oldcrab
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Yes, everyone has their own level of bias, and that bias comes from everything we've been taught or mentored-in when we were younger and developing our personal character and moral-standings.
The reason conservative views are losing-ground to progressive/woke views is that over 90% of "higher-learning-institutions" take our youngsters and full-body-marinate the students in WAGPAC-sauce, for at least 4 years, before launching them into the world with their brand-new degrees. (shaped-and-bolstered with their college-infused-woke/progressive viewpoints)
WAGPAC-sauce = Woke-Anti-Gun-Progressive-Anti-Conservate sauce.
Since most media-personnel are college grads, those new hires are also WAGPACs........... ouch!
Crab
The reason conservative views are losing-ground to progressive/woke views is that over 90% of "higher-learning-institutions" take our youngsters and full-body-marinate the students in WAGPAC-sauce, for at least 4 years, before launching them into the world with their brand-new degrees. (shaped-and-bolstered with their college-infused-woke/progressive viewpoints)
WAGPAC-sauce = Woke-Anti-Gun-Progressive-Anti-Conservate sauce.
Since most media-personnel are college grads, those new hires are also WAGPACs........... ouch!
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"Yes, everyone has their own level of bias, and that bias comes from everything we've been taught or mentored-in when we were younger and developing our personal character and moral-standings."
VERY true. I am fortunate to have a scientific analysis background. It helps sift through the smoke and mirrors and dust and debris. Consider the source before you read and interpret as you read. Do they give facts and figures? From a named source? How credible is the source? What "buzz words" do they use? Are they inflammatory words? Then decide if the news is credible. What does the other side say? Are they repeating unfounded/unproven rants, or do they have checkable dates/times/places/quotes?
VERY true. I am fortunate to have a scientific analysis background. It helps sift through the smoke and mirrors and dust and debris. Consider the source before you read and interpret as you read. Do they give facts and figures? From a named source? How credible is the source? What "buzz words" do they use? Are they inflammatory words? Then decide if the news is credible. What does the other side say? Are they repeating unfounded/unproven rants, or do they have checkable dates/times/places/quotes?
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el caminero
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A real tickler; do they sneer and eyeroll out loud when they mention anybody right of their "centrist" point-of-the-day...
I think some of the quotes from Mark Twain and the likes are interesting in how they still apply to today's world. One of the major differences between past times and today's world is the amount of free time people have to read and watch news, the various medias available to convey it, and the money spent to feed people what is profitable for someone else.
The truth is that about every issue you can bring up to discuss, what ever your view may be you need to remember that probably about 50% of the population feels the exact opposite. We can either just try to beat the other side by swaying 5% to our point of view or you can honestly try to understand what their view is. Maybe they are right in some ways and I know we think we are right for sure. There will never be a consensus unless we try to do that. I personally get discouraged about the future of our country, but it will never survive unless we all make an honest effort to understand each other.
The truth is that about every issue you can bring up to discuss, what ever your view may be you need to remember that probably about 50% of the population feels the exact opposite. We can either just try to beat the other side by swaying 5% to our point of view or you can honestly try to understand what their view is. Maybe they are right in some ways and I know we think we are right for sure. There will never be a consensus unless we try to do that. I personally get discouraged about the future of our country, but it will never survive unless we all make an honest effort to understand each other.
el caminero
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That is why the efforts to sway the undecideds, and sometimes being less insulting of the deplorables...that sure worked for Her, dinnit!
FOX just gets caught out lying more than anyone else ( and admitting to it) , but MSM is equally slanted the other way. I pretty much stick to all news radio ( 20 minute loop, no personalities, no opinions- no time for them). Euro and BBC have no horse in the race. I listen to shortwave as well, but one doesn't really know who they are listening to there, so it's a 50-50. Smaller TV news such as WPIX ( Channel 11 here) aren't bad either. Just stay away from cable and internet "nooz".
The mass media has the power of suggestion, the power of scrutiny, the power of omission, the power of marketing, the power of censorship, the power of repetition and the power of smear. I can't think of any elected official that has that much power.
Most politicians have the personality type that cherishes social position. There is no way they want to get on the wrong side of their supervisors...the media. They do as they're told.
I believe the media has more power than the political process....heck, they run it.
The Marxists aren't stupid, they're winning.
Most politicians have the personality type that cherishes social position. There is no way they want to get on the wrong side of their supervisors...the media. They do as they're told.
I believe the media has more power than the political process....heck, they run it.
The Marxists aren't stupid, they're winning.
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JackBull
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Interesting comment. I find FOX to be quite honest. Oh, the pundits may exaggerate, but that is commentary. The FOX commentators ADMIT they are Conservative or Republican in their beliefs.
MSM "lies" daily either by mis-reporting a story, repeating the same Pro-Left story for days or not reporting on something that will hurt the left. They used to hide their leanings somewhat, now it is blantent. .
JackBull
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I think that the chart is biased! NPR and CBS news report facts? OMG help us.
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Sometimes I wonder if the left wing media and the right wing media have the same owners.
MSM is controlled by the left, is very powerful and definitely biased. The right, who is the underdog in this fight, feels justified in slanting things in their favor in order to keep up (if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck). Everyone tends to believe, or at least repeat the lies they like better. The production of the 'news' has been slicked up to the point it rivals reality TV, they know how to play on people's emotions and it's all about ratings (should commercials be aired during news casts?). The days of civil discussions between the two sides among friends seem to be long gone, and we can no longer talk about it rationally with friends and family without becoming emotional. In my opinion the shift to a far right and far left with very little middle of the road, with no tolerance for 'the other side' started with Obama. With technology what it is today, doctored photographs, altered voice recordings, subliminal messages, irresponsible reporting and AI, a lot of us don't believe anything they see or hear anymore, and some only believe what they want to hear as long as it supports their views and take it as gospel. People say, as I have told people, don't believe what you see or hear on the news, but do your own research, but where do you research, and how reliable and accurate is that? We are all being manipulated by both sides, but for myself and 99% of the people I associate with or care about, conservative values make the most sense
Like Dennis Prager says, conservatism tends to be based in facts, logic, and a proven track record, and liberalism tends to be based on 'what feels good', or something along those lines. I don't think even the staunchest of libs are anxious to debate their views with a well prepared conservative, because they have nothing that makes any sense to support their argument, and I think they know it.
Don't believe a thing they SAY, but watch what they DO. And as a good friend and economist tells me, 'follow the money, and you'll find the truth'.
Like Dennis Prager says, conservatism tends to be based in facts, logic, and a proven track record, and liberalism tends to be based on 'what feels good', or something along those lines. I don't think even the staunchest of libs are anxious to debate their views with a well prepared conservative, because they have nothing that makes any sense to support their argument, and I think they know it.
Don't believe a thing they SAY, but watch what they DO. And as a good friend and economist tells me, 'follow the money, and you'll find the truth'.
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But, with that power comes a responsibility! THAT is where everybody seems to fail!
"Don't believe a thing they SAY, but watch what they DO. And as a good friend and economist tells me, 'follow the money, and you'll find the truth'." You know Bob Woodward?????
I think the shift to radically different philosophies has always existed but, now, it is more "attention grabbing" to appear to do so. We are morphing into the Morlocks and the Eloi!!!!!
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The mass media is responsible only to the owners of the network. The politicians are responsible to the mass media. If they step out of line they get smeared. Our self-appointed information providers are not elected but they are our rulers.
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oldcrab
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Brother,
You have absolutely "hit the nail on the head"!!!
The truth of the matter is:
- 50% of the US is "conservative"; 50% is "liberal"
- 100% of the good ideas for the entire country do not generate from just one party!
- until both parties adopt a respectful process which selects the "best ideas" from either side of the aisle, expand that idea to "best represent our mutual interests", pass-it and celebrate it, we're screwed.
Yep, half conservatives and half liberals.
I see two problems with your solution.
(1) It used to be more conservatives, but we tried the respectful process, and compromise, to select the "best ideas", for the last 50+ years.
What did that get us?
A direct attack on our morals and principles, in the form of taking God out of the mainstream, believing American exceptionalism makes you racist or xenophobic. Compromise gave us abortion, homosexuality, legal drug use, gender bending, DEI, WOKE, idiot college kids calling for genocide, defund the police, BLM, riots........ect.
With all these "compromises" in place we are now at 50/50.......screwed, as you say.
The RINO's were just there for a paycheck......Bastards.
(2) THEY WILL NOT compromise, or work across the aisle. The half of us who still believe in the constitution and American exceptionalism, realize this, and have dug in our heels and plan to beat them at their own game. WIN. No compromise.
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Let's put it this way. Darn near 100% of the bad ideas generate from just one party.
oldcrab
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I don't disagree with that.
We should only work together on ideas that benefit all folks.
