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It never ceases to amaze me at the ignorance of some people.

Our great country is not the same as it was 100, 200 300 or more years ago.

Yet,, some people are hell-bent on trying to make the wildlife like it was back then.

So many differences in then & now make this an unrealistic goal.

And yet,, they push forward with their warped agenda.
 
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It never ceases to amaze me at the ignorance of some people.

Our great country is not the same as it was 100, 200 300 or more years ago.

Yet,, some people are hell-bent on trying to make the wildlife like it was back then.

So many differences in then & now make this an unrealistic goal.

And yet,, they push forward with their warped agenda.
It's kind of different now. Namely people and livestock where the country was wild.
 

BearBiologist

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Geist is a deer biologist.

A couple of facts from a retired wildlife biologist who lives in wolf country.
1. The Endangered Species Act and all listings thereunder that I have seen, written, or worked under allow for defense of life and property.
2. We had a pack ~6 miles south of town. In ~4 years, that pack was observed feeding on ONE steer, despite living adjacent to farm and ranch land and numerous homes. That steer was determined to have been roadkill. That moved to the Teanaway River area after the alpha female there was poached. One livestock fatality was reported - a steer on a Federal grazing lease. This was despite the fact that three generations of sheep and cattle had been grazed on that lease. Wolves were seen almost daily by outriders. That rancher, a third-generation leaseholder, has been reimbursed and is pro-wolf.

You can access monthly reports on all packs in WA State at this site:


Teanaway Pack (near Cle Elum, WA):




Malaga/Naneum pack: (Note I've known Gregg Kurz for 20 years. He works for USFWS as a predator specialist in the Central Washington Field Office)

 
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Years ago a guy bought a twenty acre parcel about 5 miles west of my place, he stopped by and introduced himself and said he was working on his doctoral thesis in comparative, bla, bla, blah. I never thought much about it until one day I was out walking around my property and was charged by two large wolf hybrids. They charged down the hill at me and I drew and fired my 44 in front of them, the dirt it kicked up and the large muzzel flash must have changed their minds, they ran down the road towards their home, I fired again behind them and they accelerated I got in my truck and chased them all the way to their home, when I got there I could see the guy had build a large circular pen and there were four hybrids in the pen eating a dead deer and another three out side, all now howling at me. The guy wasn't around, so I went home and started calling around. I called the university and asked about grad students working on a wolf study, no one knew anything and had never heard of the guy. A couple of days later I stopped him on the road and told him about the encounter, I told him people have the right to shoot roaming dogs and he told me that if I shot his wolves he would kill me, I thanked him for the warning and told him that if I had to shoot one I knew what to expect from him and would deal with him accordingly.
 

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Years ago a guy bought a twenty acre parcel about 5 miles west of my place, he stopped by and introduced himself and said he was working on his doctoral thesis in comparative, bla, bla, blah. I never thought much about it until one day I was out walking around my property and was charged by two large wolf hybrids. They charged down the hill at me and I drew and fired my 44 in front of them, the dirt it kicked up and the large muzzel flash must have changed their minds, they ran down the road towards their home, I fired again behind them and they accelerated I got in my truck and chased them all the way to their home, when I got there I could see the guy had build a large circular pen and there were four hybrids in the pen eating a dead deer and another three out side, all now howling at me. The guy wasn't around, so I went home and started calling around. I called the university and asked about grad students working on a wolf study, no one knew anything and had never heard of the guy. A couple of days later I stopped him on the road and told him about the encounter, I told him people have the right to shoot roaming dogs and he told me that if I shot his wolves he would kill me, I thanked him for the warning and told him that if I had to shoot one I knew what to expect from him and would deal with him accordingly.
Irrelevant as they were hybrids: Neither wolf nor dog! Example why people should not have wild animals! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

contender

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"It's kind of different now. Namely people and livestock where the country was wild."

My point exactly. Times, populations, and human construction of all kinds. They have altered the land to where animals used to be "in the wild" so to speak.
 

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