black1970
Blackhawk
Winchester rifles are now made in Japan and are excellent.
No more Harbor Freight?
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WV460hunter
Single-Sixer
Oh boy , well here I go ..one of the main reasons is bad trade deals, and inflation forcing in house companies to raise prices to pay increased worker salaries thus passing it on to fellow Americans. There are lots of reasons why but,it won't help us at all for all them to disappear if the prices that are being charged for homemade goods are higher.
Let's look at winches .. only 1or 2 brands is mostly made in America : Ramsey and maybe one Warn. Beyond that some are American owned but still source parts and have assembly done in China. There are literally 20 different brands of winches all of which are made in just a couple different factories in China. Unless all manufactured parts are no longer made over there and are made here then how would anyone afford one. The price is literally 3 times as much for the American made ones.
JackBull
Buckeye
If you look you can find American Made or non-Chinese made tools. Stay away from the box stores!
JackBull
Buckeye
Whats the price of your neighbors being on welfare?
WV460hunter
Single-Sixer
Oh boy , well here I go ..one of the main reasons is bad trade deals, and inflation forcing in house companies to raise prices to pay increased worker salaries thus passing it on to fellow Americans. There are lots of reasons why but,it won't help us at all for all them to disappear if the prices that are being charged for homemade goods are higher.
Let's look at winches .. only 1or 2 brands is mostly made in America : Ramsey and maybe one Warn. Beyond that some are American owned but still source parts and have assembly done in China. There are literally 20 different brands of winches all of which are made in just a couple different factories in China. Unless all manufactured parts are no longer made over there and are made here then how would anyone afford one. The price is literally 3 times as much for the American made ones.
Well, I don't have any on welfare 2 retired and 2 working and 1 a small business owner. And myself working.
I have long said welfare has been a strain and drain on the average American. All I know is taxes eats me up. I had to pay out over 1500.00 this past year to the feds. That's after they raped me all year long. Many on such programs who don't belong on them.
buckeyeshooter
Blackhawk
Can't say today. I have been out of that business 25 years and many things have changed. Duckback is owned by Sherwin Williams today. But in the 80's and 90's they were big and Lowe's and Home Depot had not started flooding the market yet.
Trump cut corporate tax for businesses to be inline with other countries and they were moving back, expanding and hiring here. JB is talking raising them. If he is elected in 2034 more will be moving out again
They moved out because the politicians you elected stole money from the American business and gave it to the Chinese, Japanese, Mexican.....
I try to avoid HF for the Chinese issue but then I go to another store and there stuff is made in China too. My plan is to buy more and more at HF and save the receipts then when all the Commie soldiers who snuck over the border cut loose, I'll show them the Harbor Freight receipts. What I find interesting is that a lot of HF tools are sold under the name Pittsburg.
You can not get away from Chinese made stuff right now. I remember when Walmart was only USA made stuff but the could keep prices down.
The only consolation is that our purchasing power, though dwindling, keeps their economy going. Lots of leverage if you know how to use it. I don't think nMr. Xi wants 1,000,000,000 hungry people running around.
You can not get away from Chinese made stuff right now. I remember when Walmart was only USA made stuff but the could keep prices down.
The only consolation is that our purchasing power, though dwindling, keeps their economy going. Lots of leverage if you know how to use it. I don't think nMr. Xi wants 1,000,000,000 hungry people running around.
bigbillyboy
Buckeye
You can spend all day looking for a few Items that are all American made . All the bashing of harbor freight , how many are driving foreign autos ........
xtratoy
Buckeye
xtratoy
Buckeye
I'll just say in my experience that Proto open end wrenchs are the worst ones i have ever owned.
You may or may not know that Lowes & Home Depot no longer give the discount on appliances., like microwaves, etc.Veterans
Lowe's- 10% Vet discount unlimited amount annually
Home Depot- 10% Vet discount up to $400 annually
Harbor Freight- Vet discount 0%
Fooking Chinese don't give a crap we served, we're their enemy
They just opened a new one in my area. It's been mobbed with shoppers. I can't remember the last time I was in a store and got so many offers of assistance. Very upbeat atmosphere. That being said, our local HD also has people patrolling the aisles so it's not that hard to get some assistance there, either, but the clerks aren't out searching for customers to help, for the most part.
HF has put a lot of effort into making some quality items lately. The Hercules and Icon lines, especially.
HF has put a lot of effort into making some quality items lately. The Hercules and Icon lines, especially.
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RC44Mag
Buckeye
I didn't but good to know
HF opened in South Burlington a few years ago and it is over a half hour away. I usually get what I need at local hardware stores. Used to get a 10% discount from my job at a local one called Aubuchon's and I continued to use it after I retired, but about a year ago they killed it for retirees. Without the discount, it no longer beats Home Depot, so if I need anything pricey, I will try to wait until I'm up near HD an hour away. Only thing I ever bought at Harbor Freight was a couple of tarps and some huge screw hooks for hanging bicycles in the garage. Their heavy-duty tarps seem to be reasonable quality for half the price.
Having made my living as a mechanic I am a Snap On guy. I have broken many other brands, and yes, they may have had a lifetime warranty, but I had to go to them. Snap On came to me.
That said, HF has its place even in professional toolboxes. Some specialty tools are hundreds of dollars. HF has them far cheaper. If it is not one you are going to use a lot it is cost effective to buy one, two, even three of the HF version. Some of their tools, even if you use them a lot, are still cost effective because the life span isn't a lot different, but the price is (air tools, floor jacks are examples)
Besides that wonderful smell of Chinese oil (huge sarcasm on this point)
That said, HF has its place even in professional toolboxes. Some specialty tools are hundreds of dollars. HF has them far cheaper. If it is not one you are going to use a lot it is cost effective to buy one, two, even three of the HF version. Some of their tools, even if you use them a lot, are still cost effective because the life span isn't a lot different, but the price is (air tools, floor jacks are examples)
Besides that wonderful smell of Chinese oil (huge sarcasm on this point)
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JackBull
Buckeye
You completely missed the point. Sending good jobs overseas means your neighbors may become a drain on the system causing taxes to go up. In the long run you dont save money buying cheap tools. YMMV
