Ruger American 223 rotary mag max C.O.A.L.?

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71shooter

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Can someone please tell me what the maximum cartridge overall length is with the rotary magazines in the earlier versions of the Ruger American in 223 Remington? Thanks
 
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Measure as best you can. Load 3-4 dummy rounds at the longest length you determine and see if they feed properly. If not, seat a bit deeper and try again. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to get a number that works. ;)
 

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Measure as best you can. Load 3-4 dummy rounds at the longest length you determine and see if they feed properly. If not, seat a bit deeper and try again. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to get a number that works. ;)
Thanks for the suggestion. However, I own the newer version that takes AR type mags. I came across one of the Rotary mag versions for an attractive price, but I don't want it unless I can load to the lands. I got an AI mag well and 204 Ruger mag from Ruger for my current rifle, but have misplaced it somewhere.
 
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"but I don't want it unless I can load to the lands."
I understand your desire BUT with all the hoopla and hype over the mismatch/crossmatch between .223 and mil-spec 5.56x45, I seriously doubt that any common .223 factory made rifle has a true .223 chamber. This means 'load to the lands' ends up with a way overlength cartridge.
We had a Savage .223 here that had been 'shot out' by the previous owner. The only way to achieve even moderate accuracy was to load heavy semi-spitzer bullets and modify the mag well block to accept ammo about .25" longer than normal. No way would this work in a detachable mag platform.
 

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"but I don't want it unless I can load to the lands."
I understand your desire BUT with all the hoopla and hype over the mismatch/crossmatch between .223 and mil-spec 5.56x45, I seriously doubt that any common .223 factory made rifle has a true .223 chamber. This means 'load to the lands' ends up with a way overlength cartridge.
We had a Savage .223 here that had been 'shot out' by the previous owner. The only way to achieve even moderate accuracy was to load heavy semi-spitzer bullets and modify the mag well block to accept ammo about .25" longer than normal. No way would this work in a detachable mag platform.
I just found the AI mag well and magazine that I had ordered from Ruger last year. I can now very easily load to the lands. I have a super accurate match prepped load that uses a 55gr Sierra BK over a stout load of Varget in Lapua brass. It's right at 2.26" long, works in AR mags, and I see no need to do anything else with it. However, I would like to work up a 77gr TMK load with the ability to load long. I can report back how it goes.

That other RAP sold for only $300. Should have bought it.
 

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The solution you're seeking was made about 10 years ago by a member of 24HR Campfire forum who goes by "cotis",
They are a simple replacement for the factory rear end of the magazine and allow a c.o.l. of close to 2.5".
One fellow was loading the Hornady 75 Amax at 2.429 which put it .010 into the lands. i don't know if they're still available.



 

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