I noticed after the bridge structure was removed with explosives the ship still has a "bow down" attitude. Does the remaining black top and underlying debris weigh more than the removed bridge structure? A bunch of the containers were removed too.
Baltimore bridge collapses after ship strike
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Rat76
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What I read was, they flooded the forward compartment(s) so it would stay put when the weight came off.
el caminero
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Hehehe...being reported as Fact dosent make it a fact. The left keeps saying that about fox news...
I do think it was an accident, but at the same time agree with you. Way back on page one of this thread you said: "The "authorities" sure were quick to say this was very likely an accident and nothing nefarious."
It does make you wonder how they knew so fast that it was an accident and not done on purpose.
But conspiracy? It would involve too many people, I don't see how it could be pulled off for such a long time…Someone would talk.
I wonder if it will turn out to be the prank of some tech savvy 15 year old who was able to hack the electronics that controlled the ship, and played it like a video game. I'd much prefer that this be the case rather than the Chinese just testing out how they can further disrupt American lives.
el caminero
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Very early " reportage"/commentary did use the words 'sabotage' and 'hacked'
XUSNORDIE
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All I know is I'm tired of seeing that damn container canoe outside my office window and miss seeing the bridge.
As for intentional efforts to take down the bridge if it were my diabolical attempt to cause harm I would have considered something that would cause a bit more impact to "something"...more than this place.....yeah at first it had a pretty crazy impact on certain things but we figured it out and it's business as usual here. Biggest impact locally at this time appears to be mostly sentimental.
Wonder if it's too late to invest in Reynolds Wrap stock.....more and more folks are making hats everyday....
As for intentional efforts to take down the bridge if it were my diabolical attempt to cause harm I would have considered something that would cause a bit more impact to "something"...more than this place.....yeah at first it had a pretty crazy impact on certain things but we figured it out and it's business as usual here. Biggest impact locally at this time appears to be mostly sentimental.
Wonder if it's too late to invest in Reynolds Wrap stock.....more and more folks are making hats everyday....
JackBull
Buckeye
Show me where this is wrong.
Totally agree with your Reynolds Wrap comment. The first week traffic was a total nightmare but now most have figured out when to leave home and what route to take to get wherever. Baltimore traffic sucks on a good day. If there was even a thought of a conspiracy I can assure you that the biggest "hollering" would have come from Dan Rodricks (Baltimore Sun complained in chief). If you wanted to cause chaos then the Conawingo Dam going away would take out the I-95 and probably US Rt 40 bridges as well as B&O and Amtrak bridges over the Susquehanna River. One bridge, Key bridge ,on a major city beltway would be wasted energy.
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el caminero
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So, who really knows, anyway? And will we be able to believe it?
el caminero
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The po-boy nautical engineer in me says...flooded compartments, and no/not enough effort to pump them out.
el caminero
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Oh, i find it rather entertaining, the thought that there could be more to this than a simple accident...really brings 'em out of the woodwork...
caryc
Hawkeye
I wonder how much fuel that ship has left on it?
el caminero
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I havent heard about any leaks
Probably didn't bunker in the US. Too darned expensive. There was a time when ships used to make stops in the US just to bunker. Then the feds figured out that they could tax the heck out of what refineries were cheaply selling their waste oil for. That tax was so high that it no longer was financially advantageous to bunker here. I watched the bunker fuel business dry up and companies go out of business in short order.
Reminds me of what Reagan said were the nine most dangerous words. "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help".
Reminds me of what Reagan said were the nine most dangerous words. "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help".
JackBull
Buckeye
Apparently you wont.
XUSNORDIE
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Exactly. I use exit 42 off I-695 to access the Trade Point area of Sparrows Point. Exit 43 is a half mile further and the last exit prior to crossing the bridge (when it was there). Everything is barricaded now and you can't go further than 42. You can still access going north from 43 though, which I do coming home. All this has basically eliminated traffic and a quicker exit from Trade Point/Sparrows Point. I don't know anybody complaining about traffic either way. The trucks are getting product in and out as usual, ships are also dropping grain and cars and everything else every day, no impact.
In my opinion this whole thing was due to pure negligence on several parts, no conspiracy, evil intent or terrorist act. I will save what tin foil I have for wrapping my left overs...
Now if something could happen to fix traffic at the I-695/I-95 choke point back up, the I-695/I-795 choke point back up, the passage through Westminster on 140 and the two last lights (of the three) in Taneytown, and create a left turn lane in Emmitsburg at the Seton Ave........I'd be a happier camper!
Commuting to Baltimore from Gettysburg and back everyday is definitely a grind!
That I-695/I-795 section is a "walk zone" daily as is the I-95/I-895 split during rush hour. One of my daughters used to work at Hopkins Bayview and is SO glad she changed jobs and doesn't have to deal with that daily. Happy I can now look at the MTA traffic cams instead of driving it.
XUSNORDIE
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It certainly is. In the am on 795 It is backed up and at as you say a "walk zone" if even that....all caused by those going towards Glen Burnie when they get to 695.....frustrating for those of us going towards Towson.
With any luck I only have a year maybe two left until I can say no more "grind" and not wander too far from my little shack on this mountain overlooking the battlefields.
