chet15
Hawkeye
836 is a long frame
I look at the front lower toe of the grip frame. Well rounded = short frame. Very pointed = long frame.Probably been asked before, but, is there a way to tell a long frame visually from a picture in an ad?
Look at the toe of the grip frame if there is a decent picture that shows that. A long frame is pointed, short frame is nicely rounded.1786 is for sale on the Smith forum but I can't tell if it's long or short