Ruger MK II, MK III, Drill and Tap (D&T)?

[RatCat454]

I have a subscription to the RENE. I have also used the search function on the forum and various search engines on internet.

1. Was there ever a MK II, 10" barrel, that had the receiver drilled and tapped from the factory?

2. Was there ever a MK III with a ten-inch barrel?

3. When did Ruger start drilling and tapping the MK II? From various sources, all adjustable sight equipped MK II and MK III had the receivers drilled and tapped after 2004. The MK II ended in 2005. Also, there is mention of the early drilled and tapped MK II receivers only have two holes instead of the now standard three.

 

[chilidog]

For Sale - Ruger Mark IIs

Pristine NIB. You'll find none better. KMK514. Outdoor Sports Model with laminate grips. With shipper. MK514. With shipper. KMK678. Factory D&T. From memory only around 100 D&T at end of MKII run. $735 each shipped. Will consider trades on Jim Clark and early Volquartsen MKI and MKIIs. Will post...

www.rugerforum.com

Here is a late government model that was d/t
They are very rare.

 

[contender]

"1. Was there ever a MK II, 10" barrel, that had the receiver drilled and tapped from the factory?"

I do not recall any of the 10" versions having factory tapped receivers. But I could be wrong.

"2. Was there ever a MK III with a ten-inch barrel?"

Again,, I don't recall them as an offering,, but I'll see if I can look into that.

And I'll see if I can uncover the date of when they made D&T the receiver standard.

 

[Uncle Howie]

1. Was there ever a MK II, 10" barrel, that had the receiver drilled and tapped from the factory?

2. Was there ever a MK III with a ten-inch barrel?

3. When did Ruger start drilling and tapping the MK II? From various sources, all adjustable sight equipped MK II and MK III had the receivers drilled and tapped after 2004. The MK II ended in 2005. Also, there is mention of the early drilled and tapped MK II receivers only have two holes instead of the now standard three.

Yes, there were some 10" MKII models that were factory D&T, late in the run.

I know a Ruger Forum member who has a NIB factory D&T KMK10, with the "circled B" stamp (IIRC) on the box label, indicating factory D&T.

 

[contender]

Yep,, apparently I'm wrong again!

 

[1gunsnotenough]

I have been pursuing the D&T versions of the MKII. I have MK10, KMK10, MK678, KMK678, MK678G, KMK678G, MK512 and KMK512, KMK4BL. And an MK512CA. All NIB. The D&T variations are tough to find.

 

[1gunsnotenough]

Ruger didn't drill and tap their Mark II autos as early as the 215- prefix, so I think that ones been done after-factory.
The first D&T guns that came out was the Camfour MK-512CA
From the reference...

MK512CA (Ruger model 0199) Special Distributor model. Has smooth laminated grips, is drilled and tapped for scope base and comes with a scope base and rings. Known s/n range 225-46986 to 225-57468. A total of 302 produced in 2003 for Camfour (MA).

This model was apparently pretty successful from the D&T standpoint as Ruger decided to offer all guns with adjustable sights as Drilled and Tapped (a great advertising tool!). The earliest of each model known are as follows, again from the reference (note how rare some of these D&T models are!):

Drilled and tapped receiver MK512, MK678, MK678G, MK10, KMK512, KMK678, KMK678G, KMK10, P4B, P512 and KP512. In 2004, all regular production adjustable sight Mark II pistol model variations were drilled and tapped by the factory and shipped with a Weaver style scope base adapter. MK512 S/N 225-57739 is a prototype of this feature (probably an overrun of the Camfour issue described above) and pictured in the 2004 Ruger catalog. For the regular production models, all of which are identified by a circled "B" on the box label, the tapped receiver begins to be seen by at least s/n 225-82223 (although a run of KMK678G in the 225-82023 to 225-82103 s/n range have the circled "B", the boxes were marked in error as the pistols do not have the drilled and tapped receiver). The estimated quantities produced of each regular production Mark II Target pistol with drilled and tapped receiver are as follows: MK512 = 5,650; MK678 = 850; MK10 = less than 200; MK678G = 500 or less; KMK512 = 2,200; KMK678 = 950; KMK10 = less than 200; KMK678G = 400; P4B = 1,000; P512 = 7,000; KP512 = 600.

The last D&T model to come out was the USST model KMK512GCUS (Ruger model 0168) Special Distributor USA Shooting Team model. Known s/n range USA00001 to USA02599.

And yes, 226-18143 is the highest Mark II pistol I've heard of. It is the highest known 1 of 1000 KMK41K which was Ruger's commemorative and final model to the Mark II series. Being a Standard, it is not drilled and tapped.
Chet15

 

[Bad Barlow]

Now my curiosity is piqued,I'll check the s/n on my kmk678G,d&t'd tomorrow.

 

[RatCat454]

MK512 = 5,650; MK678 = 850; MK10 = less than 200; MK678G = 500 or less; KMK512 = 2,200; KMK678 = 950; KMK10 = less than 200; KMK678G = 400; P4B = 1,000; P512 = 7,000; KP512 = 600.

I am confused, so nothing new. Where is the Mark II KMK678GC in the fray? I have very limited experience with the Mark pistol nomenclature.

Is the KMK678 the standard, tapered barrel, fixed sight, no-holes receiver? The KMK678G is the bull barrel, adjustable sight, and receiver D&T? And the KMK678GC is the slab-side barrel, adjustable sight, D&T?

 

[1gunsnotenough]

All GC models were D&T. So no rarity there. KMK678 is heavy tapered barrel. With adjustable sights. The KMK678G is BB with adjustable sights. Not D&T except the last few. KMK678GC is slab side D&T with adjustable sights.

 

[contender]

I was hoping 1gunsnotenough would see this thread. He's about the most serious collector I know of when it comes to the MKII's. (I know another one,, but I'm not sure he has as detailed records as above.)

My faded memory seems to recall a slight variation in a few of the D&T versions within a model. Some had (2) screws, and some had (3) screws for the base. And they (Ruger) didn't change anything in the model nomenclature.

Is this correct or is my memory playing tricks on me again????

 

[chet15]

The two hole/three hole sight base variation comes from the earliest KMK678GC Government Competition slabside models. The earliest of these (all in the early 218- prefix) only had the two-hole receiver and two-hole sight base. Very tough to find!!!
Chet15

 

[contender]

Thanks Chad,
I knew I'd heard something,, just could not remember the models.

Do you know if Ruger did or did not male a model change when they did that? I was thinking they didn't.

 

[Bad Barlow]

Now my curiosity is piqued,I'll check the s/n on my kmk678G,d&t'd tomorrow.

Mine is 226 prefix " government target model" full round stainless bull barrel 3 hole d&t'd,if anybody cares!Best trigger of my 3 MKll's,love it.

 

[moparclan]

My 10" MKII is not drilled and tapped.